Is the KJV bible the only inspired bible with absolutely correct translation?
Which version of the KJV is the correct one? - there were  at least 4 revisions of it.
If it was inspired why was there marginal notes showing alternat translations written in?
If God felt there was a need to provide a translation from Hebrew and Greek original into early modern english - why hasn't He done the same for modern english?
If as the translators of the KJV:NT calim that it is translated from the original Greek - where did the original Greek manuscripts go and why are they not available to modern scholars to check the translation?

You know what Dave?  Jesus said "My word shall not pass away".  I read the King James Version because I find it the most accurate.  It really does not matter to me which version you use or anyone else.  I stand for myself alone in reading the scriptures, and I believe it is the Holy spirit that reveals the gospel to whomever God chooses.  That choice is not up to man.

RaynaRenee

I put this in here to challange those people who believe that the KJV is the only true bible and all others are inspired by the devil - I have come across individuals like that before and was hoping that one would read this and take up the discussion.

The KJV has been blessed by the providence of God in a way that no other translation has.

The KJV has been blessed by the providence of God in a way that no other translation has quote by mark
Could you please explain? I personally use a Newberry bible which is basically the KJV with Greek and Hebrew
additional inputs such as prepositions etc I currently am studying Greek in my spare time because I believe it
helps me to understand the word of God more fully. I also use e-sword in which I use around 4-5 bible
translations when I am studying a passage and from my experience the KJV is very good in most part.
However, I have found countless examples of words within the KJV translation which gives the wrong rendering of a particular passage. Other bibles in my opinion which you could read alongside the KJV are the Darby, ASV, ESV translations

Dear Mr Sinclair

One example would be Revival. The KJV has been directly associated with Major revivals down through
history in the English speaking world.

Since the dawn of the modern versions there has been no such revival that we know happened in the era
when the KJV was the dominant English Bible.

God is not the Author of Confusion. A mutitude of versions does not help us to better understand the word.

The KJV will be around when the NIV and ESV have passed into history!!!

The KJV was the product of the clearest move of God since the Apostles ie the Protestant Reformation.

Most if not all modern versions are the product of business men and Tycoons who want to peddle the
word of God for gain!

The KJV has no copyright.

Modern versions are owned in many circumstances by the ungodly.

How can we as evangelicals give them our blessing???

All for now,

Mark.

The NIV is published by Zondervan

This is taken from Wikipedia


In 1988, Zondervan became a division of HarperCollins Publishers, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch's
News Corporation, joining the British Christian imprints of Fount and Marshall Pickering,
which Zondervan oversaw for a while. Ownership by News Corporation has led to some controversy,
and one executive attempted a buyout in 1992.[4]

There have been a number of controversies surrounding Zondervan in recent years.
The TNIV offended some Christian conservatives, and the take-over by HarperCollins
meant that the firm now belonged to an organization that also publishes non-Christian books.

In 2005, Zondervan senior marketing director Greg Stielstra published Pyromarketing,
which discusses book marketing. This reportedly caused a dispute with Rick Warren,
who felt that it was inappropriate to associate the success of The Purpose Driven Life with marketing,
rather than with spiritual explanations. See [1].[5] Stielstra left Zondervan just prior to the
publication of Pyromarketing.

Zondervan has also faced complaints about the use of Chinese printing facilities to produce Bibles.

The ESV uses gender-neutral language

For a very interesting study on this try this link

http://www.geocities.com/bible_translation/list/files/gender-inclusive-esv.doc


Examples from Romans

Rom. 2:6
RSV: For he will render to every man according to his works:
ESV: For he will render to each one according to his works:

Rom. 3:9
RSV: What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all; for I have already charged that all men,
both Jews and Greeks, are under the power of sin,
ESV: What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all; for we have already charged that all,
both Jews and Greeks, are under the power of sin,

Rom. 3:4
RSV: By no means! Let God be true though every man be false,
ESV: By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar,

Rom. 3:28
RSV: For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.
ESV: For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of law.

Rom. 4:6
RSV: So also David pronounces a blessing upon the man to whom God reckons righteousness apart from works:
ESV: Just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works:

Rom. 5:7
RSV: Why, one will hardly die for a righteous man —
though perhaps for a good man one will dare even to die.
ESV: For one will scarcely die for a righteous person —
though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die.

Rom. 6:13
RSV: Do not yield your members to sin as instruments of wickedness,
but yield yourselves to God as men who have been brought from death to life,
ESV: Do not present your members to sin as instruments of wickedness,
but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life,

Rom. 8:27
RSV: And he who searches the hearts of men knows what is the mind of the Spirit,
ESV: And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit,

Rom. 9:33
RSV: …  “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone that will make men stumble,
ESV: …  “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling,

Rom. 10:5
RSV: Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on the law shall live by it.
ESV: Moses writes….that the person who does the commandments shall live by them.

Rom. 10:10
RSV: For man believes with his heart and so is justified, and he confesses with his lips and so is saved.
ESV: For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.

Rom. 10:14
RSV: But how are men to call upon him in whom they have not believed?
ESV: But how are they to call on him in whom they have not believed?

Rom. 10:15
RSV: And how can men preach unless they are sent?
ESV: And how are they to preach unless they are sent?

Rom. 11:32
RSV: For God has consigned all men to disobedience, that he may have mercy upon all.
ESV: For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.

Rom. 14:1
RSV: As for the man who is weak in faith…
ESV: As for the one who is weak in faith…

Rom. 14:2
RSV: One believes he may eat anything, while the weak man eats only vegetables.
ESV: One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.

Rom. 14:5
RSV: One man esteems one day as better than another, while another man esteems all days alike.
ESV: One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike.

Rom. 16:7
RSV: Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners;
they are men of note among the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.
ESV: Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners;
they are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.

I would agree that the KJV is very good, but I believe that God inspired word can work through other
translations. Most young folk I know don’t read from the KJV but other bibles and they are also saved by
the grace of God. So to say that the KJV is the only inspired bible I would have to disagree, but rather the
original manuscripts which were written in Hebrew and Greek are inspired. Oh, you would be pleased to here
that the place I worship would only read the KJV when gathered together

Mr Sinclair,
I do not believe the KJV is the only inspired scripture, but I enjoy reading it the most.  It is easy to memorize and I do not have any trouble understanding  it.   For my part I do not need any other translations.

RaynaRenee

Interesting site in connection with this subject;-http://www.oneinmessiah.net.         which bible?

I was at first extremely excited to see a forum and website that is reformed in nature in Ireland. I recently have adopted the doctrines of grace (well maybe they adopted me) and have read all of the main confessions. I am a definite reformed baptist and zealous for all things pertaining to the sovereignty of God.

I was excited until I read of this discussion on the KJV. Everytime I hear this debate i really bothers me, especially from those who so strongly emphasise the sovereignty of God. I understand there are better translations than others, but to make the KJV the sole Bible that should be used for today's church is nonsense.
Have a look into the history of those who were involved in the translation and also who commissioned it in the first place, they were not all Godly people, mostly just gifted translators.

If the KJV bible is the one that should be used by the majority of Christians what are we to make of those in other countries who of course could not have it? There is a phenomenon in the Spanish speaking world where they say the Rheina-Valera version (KJV Spanish) equivalent is the only one to be used. Are we any better than the JW's with our KJV only stuff?

If we truly believe in the sovereignty of God can we not lay aside this argument, realise that there are more readable, in many cases more accurately translated and easier understand (especially for those yet to be saved) and trust that God will use all things for His glory?

To see Reformed Christians supporting KJV only stuff really does bother me.

- A Reformed Christian in Cork

Steven,
Good to read the points you make. I have always read the Word of God from the King James Version.
But also other versions or translations. I think it is fair to say those who defend the KJV version as the only
inspired translation have good reason to. I am reading at present the Preface to the King James version.
And to be fair and reasonable what the translators of this version wrote seems to me to be geniune and
honest enough. But lets give God the glory that we are so blessed by the very Word of God that comes to
us as He as appointed.
"MAN SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE, BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD"  - THE LORD JESUS CHRIST - MATTHEW CH. 4.
sincerely
Joe

thank god for the work of reformation ireland we need a work of god north and south the king james bible is a gift of god to the christian people in all ages past present and untill our saviour returns  :)