From my travel to Northern Ireland, I believe there is a rapid growth of Christians who believe in corporate election which would not be a popular doctrine over in Scotland. Any, thoughts?
I agree Mr Sinclair, there are reformed churches being established but the greatest threat surely is the proliferation of versions of the Scripture. Such need to awaken to the reality of 'Yea Hath God said' and return unto the Old Paths of God's preserved Word, the Authorised KJV
Why is KJV the only accepted version? It was never authorised by royal decree, order of council or parliment. James 1, when he set up the committies to write this bible insisted that it be based on the 'Bishops Bible'. This bible was a modification of the 'Great Bible' and was so modified because Elizabeth 1 was a strong advocate of right of divine rule of an English monarch. The Geneva Bible at the time refuted Divine Rule as a right.
What difference does it make to you Dave what bible you use. You don't believe it anyway. You believe only in the word of the pope that you serve. You cannot have faith in anything but tradition, and whatever comes out of the mouth of your pope.
So forget which bible you think is inspired, because you do not believe in inspiration of scripture.
You have answered well Rayna, Dave you need to Repent and Turn from dead religion unto the living Word of God [face=Arial]Not by works of Righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us Titus 3 v 5
From my travel to Northern Ireland, I believe there is a rapid growth of Christians who believe in corporate election which would not be a popular doctrine over in Scotland. Any, thoughts?
Mr Sinclair, "corporate election", does that mean "predestination"? What religion is prevalent in Scotland? thank you. I enjoy reading your posts.
Within Northern Ireland, my circle of friend would go to non denominational assemblies gathered unto the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Many of these churches would be called Gospel hall, and there is a prominent man over there called David Gilliland who is rather influential and ‘amazing’ on the scriptures. I don’t know the ‘ins’ and ‘outs’ of corporate election on which he believes. I think the main belief of corporate election is that the ‘church’ has been elected and predestined before the foundation of the world as the pride of Christ as his own special people. Jesus Christ is the elect of God in which we are individually and unconditionally saved by the grace of God and accepted in the beloved and make up the body of Christ. Not that God in time past chose specific individuals before they even existed without there assent. Basically, they systematically try to fit God’s sovereign unmerited and gracious choice, with human response in regards to the gospel. I personally agree with Spurgeon's classic statement: ‘I do not believe they can ever be welded into one upon any earthly anvil, but they certainly shall be one in eternity. They are two lines that are so nearly parallel, that the human mind which pursues them farthest will never discover that they converge, but they do converge, and they will meet somewhere in eternity, close to the throne of God, whence all truth doth spring’.
The main religion in Scotland is Christianity and Catholicism, most people are not practising. In the main most Protestants are just church goers or, the idea if you do a simple prayer in your heart about Jesus, or raise your hand one night you would be saved. So there is a false sense of what Christianity really is all about, which is rather sad. In Scotland football is a major idol, so if you support Rangers FC you would be called a protestant or if you support Celtic FC then you would be a Catholic.
Hope that helps, I personally have not studied election to a vast extend and have tried to avoid it as much as possible. It is rather a shame countless of times when having fellowship with believers the most common topics are either ‘election’ or ‘divorce’ rather than speaking on the glories of Christ, or what the holy spirit has unfolded to believers.
I would not paint as gloomy a picture of Scotland as Mr Sinclair does.There are still faithful preachers burdened for the glory of God and His cause ,and the souls of men (and women) and preaching the full counsel of God.There are faithful hearers of the word,though in proportion to the population, admittedly small;But where is it otherwise? As for not having studied election,I would commend that you would not avoid this,for the glory of God is the highest purpose of electing grace .Try Ephesians chapter 1 verses 6;12;14 especially, and pray that the Holy Spirit would enlighten your mind in the knowledge of this great truth.
Mr Sinclair, Your comments on "religion" in scotland is more factual rather than gloomy as Marvill puts it. I made the same point about where I live in the Republic of Ireland. Observation would soon bear this out. Roman Catholics and Protestants in general are mere "churchgoers" and those that do not attend are general athiests in the sense that they could not careless or have very little interest in the Living God or religion of any sort. Marvill makes the point that there are faithful preachers in Scotland as truly as there are in Ireland. But, they are all inside church buildings preaching to the converted!! A good exercise for believers to study on the Death of Christ is to study all the Scriptures on the extent of the Atonement. To all those who call themselves "Calvinists" They are all not in agreement, some are four point Calvinists, Limited Atonement is one of the points rejected. Another point Calvin himself did not teach "Limited Atonement" check out his writings. sincerely Joe.
Very interested in your comments Joseph. I don't know if you've been following The Irish Times all this week but honestly its a crying shame that almost every day in the Letters column there has been real invective displayed against Biblical Protestantism, in its truest sense because Wallace Thompson of EPS in Belfast dared to challenge the Dean of St Patrick's Cathedral in Dublin for selling Rosary beads.
Shame on the Dean but also shame on those who have displayed their ignorance of the Bible. Fiona Orr of Shankill in County Dublin speaks of the division between Protestantism and Romanism being 'primarily cultural' and speaks of such views which reject Rosary beads as being backward and narrow-minded.
The God of this world truly hath blinded so many in the Republic of Ireland who haven't a clue why the glorious Reformation took place. The pen truly is mightier than the sword so all Bible believers in Ireland need to get active in writing to papers such as The Irish Times to refute such lies as have filled its Letters column this week. Romans 1 v 16
Raymond, I did not read the letters page you mention in the Irish Times I did hear Wallace Thompson on the Joe Duffy Show (RTE). Are you aware that most Anglican Cathedrals in the Uk apart from selling anything from religious trinkets and all sorts also sell Rosary beads and Roman Catholic litrature. These places are like the temple when Jesus went in an turned over the moneychangers tables, etc. (Matthew ch. 21). They are in it to make money!! Jesus called it a "den of thieves" They do not preach the Gospel, I repeat they do not preach the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Are you also aware that Wallace Thompson is a member of the Orange Order a secret society!! His remarks only give Roman Catholics a stick to beat him with. Roman Catholicism is a Cult and the Orange Order and Freemasonary is pagan and from the pit. therefore not Christian. Yes the Pope of Rome is an Anti-Christ that is obvious. Yet so is Anglicanism and the Head man Archbishop Williams is a pagan druid. For that reason I suspect the motives of men like Wallace Thompson. They certainly are not those of a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ. sincerely Joe
Anglican prayer beads The use of Anglican prayer beads, also called "the Anglican Rosary," has been increasingly popular since the introduction of this devotional during the 1980s. This bead set is used in a variety of ways. Commonly, the beads are used in tandem with a fixed prayer format, but they are also used merely to keep count of whatever prayers the user has chosen for the occasion. For some, the set is carried as a tangible reminder of the owner's faith, with no prayers being said on the beads at all. Despite the name, Christians of many different denominations have taken up the use of Anglican prayer beads. It is to be noted that some Anglicans prefer to pray the traditional Dominican Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary instead of in addition to Anglican prayer beads. Joe.
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