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RaynaRenee
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This is an e-mail from 'Proclaiming The Gospel Ministries with Evangelist Mike Gendron'

Message:
Greetings Friends of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministry,

A coalition of 150 Catholic, Orthodox and evangelical leaders, united “as Christians”, are calling
for everyone to take a stand against abortion, same-sex marriage and anything that betrays
their religious beliefs. On November 20th, a 4,700-word document called the Manhattan Declaration:
A Call of Christian Conscience was released (http://manhattandeclaration.org/). The document was
drafted by Chuck Colson and Princeton University professor Robert P. George, a Roman Catholic.
This is clearly another attempt to bring ecumenical unity to all of professing Christianity and blur the
lines that separate apostates from true Christians.

Many of the signers of the Evangelicals and Catholics Together Accord have given their name to this
accord as well. Purposefully, the Gospel is never defined or explained in the Manhattan Declaration.
This is because of the contradictory and opposing views on the issue of justification and salvation
that
are held by the signatories. The implication throughout the document is that Roman Catholics,
Eastern
Orthodox, and Protestant Evangelicals share a common faith. This blatantly ignores the fact that
there can be never be unity between true Christianity and apostate Christianity, between believers
and
unbelievers or between light and darkness (2 Cor. 6:14-1.

Whereas it is good to unite as co-belligerents with a united voice to fight moral and political issues,
any accord that attempts to overlook, dismiss, nullify or compromise the Gospel is antithetical to the
command for all Christians to earnestly contend for the faith. We can never deny the profound
importance of protecting the life of every baby and the sanctity of marriage between one man and
one woman. We must earnestly contend against those who seek to destroy both. However, we must
remember that this is a spiritual battle which can only be won through fervent prayer and the
proclamation of the one and only true Gospel, a Gospel that is denied by every Catholic priest
when he offers the Eucharistic Christ upon his altar for the forgiveness of sins. Charles Spurgeon
said "To pursue union at the expense of truth is treason to the Lord Jesus".

(Note: Roman Catholic leaders already disobey civil and criminal laws by hiding pedophile priests.
Their leadership is not subject to prosecution under the sovereign immunity laws of our nation
because the Vatican is a recognized nation-state.)

Since we have been sanctified by the truth, let us remain separate for God's glory and purpose.
Let us pray, proclaim and contend earnestly for the faith.

Forever in Christ,
Mike Gendron

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I thought everyone might find this interesting!!  Mike Gendron preaches the gospel of Jesus.  
He is
a former Roman Catholic I believe.
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RaynaRenee
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I know this is old news, but thought it might clarify some of the Meeting of ECT

(ECT) Evangelicals and Catholics Together
On March 29, 1994, leading evangelicals and Catholics signed a joint declaration, "Evangelicals
and Catholics Together: The Christian Mission in the 3rd. Millennium." Contained within the document,
which attempts to bring ecumenical unity, are some seriously compromising agreements regarding
proselytizing and doctrinal distinctions.

The 25-page document, originated by Chuck Colson and Catholic social critic Richard John Neuhaus,
was signed by 40 noted evangelical and Catholic leaders including Pat Robertson, heads of the
Home Mission Board and Christian Life Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, Bill Bright -
founder of Campus Crusade for Christ, Mark Noll of Wheaton University, Os Guinness, Jesse Miranda
(Assemblies of God), Richard Mauw (President , Fuller Seminary), J.I. Packer and Herbert Schlossberg.

It called for Catholic and evangelical cooperation on social and cultural issues where both traditions
share common goals, one example being the fight against abortion. The accord also stressed
mutual allegiance to the Apostles' Creed, world evangelism, justification "by grace through faith
because of Christ," and encouraged "civil" discourse over doctrinal differences.

Chuck Colson has been fervently criticized for his part in this accord and in his defense I can only
say he has a desire to see Christ's high priestly prayer (John 17) maintained. He said in his
publication, Jubilee, "All true Christians are one in Christ. That has to be. That isn't just a
theological proposition. That is a statment of ultimate reality, because God has created us all,
and those He has regenerated and called to Himself all belong to the same, one God. Disunity
is a condition that God does not want; it defies what God has done. Therefore it is an affirmative
duty on the part of every Christian to work for unity among true believers, never compromising truth,
of course, but always to work for unity.

The challenge, as I see it, for Mr. Colson and others working toward true Biblical unity of the church
is the dillution of their own faith. While I believe there are most likely "born-again" saved people
in the Catholic Church whose faith in Christ transcends the teachings and doctrines of the Church,
there is a danger of losing sight of the fact that the Catholic Church promises salvation apart from
the finished work of Christ on the cross.

The distinction is not in the common words they use, but in the definitions of those same words.
While Catholics and non-Catholics may agree with the Apostles' Creed, they don't necessarily
share the meaning. While Catholics may say they agree with justification "by grace through faith
because of Christ," their actions sometimes shows otherwise. While "civil" discourse over doctrinal
differences may be good, if that civility reduces the impact of world evangelism and bringing the
lost to Christ (including non-saved Catholics), it does nothing to advance Christ's prayer for unity
and hinders the responsibility of believers to spread the gospel throughout the world.

Subsequent Developments
Colson and other signers later agreed to a five-point statement clarifying Protestant distinctives
that were not clear in ECT. Critics claimed that the statement blurs doctrinal lines on key issues,
including salvation by faith alone. John MacArthur, pastor of the independent Grace Community
Church in Sun Valley, California, told "Christianity Today" magazine his greatest concern was the
apparent disregard for "evangelical doctrinal distinctives."

The new statement says cooperation between evangelicals and "evangelically committed Roman
Catholics" on common concerns is no endorsement of the Roman Catholic "church system" or
"doctrinal distinctives." It affirms the Protestant understanding of salvation and legitimate
evangelism efforts.

Excerpts of the followup agreement include:

•"We understand the statement that 'we are justified by grace through faith because
of Christ,' in terms of the substitutionary atonement and imputed righteousness of Christ,
leading to full assurance of eternal salvation; we seek to testify in all circumstances and
contexts to this, the historic Protestant understanding of salvation by faith alone (sola fide).
•"While we view all who profess to be Christian--Protestant and Catholic and Orthodox--with
charity and hope, our confidence that anyone is truly a brother and sister in Christ depends not
only on the content of his or her confession but on our perceiving signs of regeneration in his or
her life.
•"Though we reject proselytizing as ECT defines it (that is, 'sheep-stealing' for denominational
aggrandizement), we hold that evangelism and church planting are always legitimate, whatever
forms of church life are present already."
In November '97, a group of evangelicals and Catholics led by Charles Colson and Father Richard
John Neuhaus released a statement, "The Gift of Salvation," in which they say together,
"We understand that what we here affirm is in agreement with what the Reformation traditions
have meant by justification by faith alone." The statement says, "We agree that justification is
not earned by any good works or merits of our own; it is entirely God's gift, conferred through
the Father's sheer graciousness, out of the love that He bears us in His Son, who suffered on
our behalf and rose from the dead for our justification."


You can't believe two contradictory propositions at the same time!

You can't believe Christ obtained redemption through His blood and also believe redemption is
being accomplished through Catholic liturgy.

You can't believe salvation is by faith and "not of works" and at the same time believe that good
works earn salvation.

Only 35 short years ago Roman Catholicism was included among the "modern Cults" about which
Harold Lindsell warned his students in a course by that name at Fuller. Today, in spite of its false
gospel of works and ritual which millions of martyrs faithfully opposed to the death, Catholicism is
embraced by our most trusted evangelical leaders.

While ECT and later agreements may allow some "convergence and cooperation"
between evangelicals and Catholics in many public tasks, there remains some important
differences including "the meaning of baptismal regeneration, the Eucharist ...
diverse understandings of merit, reward, purgatory, and indulgences; Marian devotion
and the assistance of the saints in the lives of salvation..."

One often hears the naive expression, especially in justifying the new ecumenical
acceptance of Roman Catholics as Christians, "I embrace all those as brethren
who 'love Jesus' and 'name the name of Christ.'" Yet many cultists profess to love
Jesus and almost all "name the name of Christ." One must discern what is meant
by such words.

The gospel of God's grace is denied by every cult and false religion, including Roman
Catholicism, where infant baptism removes original sin and makes one a child of God,
salvation is in the church and its sacraments, redemption is an ongoing process of
perpetually offering the body and blood of Christ upon its altars, and good works merit
acceptance with God.

RaynaRenee

I think this was taken from a website called
"Jeremiah"
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